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Wednesday, August 10, 2005




Nose tombs and fishing rights...



About the shame of the USA regarding the internment of Japanese Americans: last year President Clinton gave a belated national award to one of these Japanese-Americans who volunteered to fight in the US Marine Corp during WII in the Pacific theater.

Immediately after landing onto the Iowa Jima beach the Japanese enemy fired upon this Japanese-American marine and his fellow American soldiers taking cover from Japanese bullets.

Testimony records this Japanese-American soldier immediately threw down his carbine rifle -- refusing to kill his racial brothers from the Motherland.

The Marines salvaged him by using his ability to speak Japanese as a translator on the Island -- he was responsible for encouraging Japanese soldiers out of their caves for surrender.

Clinton spoke of America's shame regarding Japanese-American internment and lauded this Japanese-American as an "American Hero" because of his deep loyalty to his racial brothers: yet, wiser minds during those days understood the Asian instinct to remain loyal to blood and soil. A major factor in removing Californian Japansese away from the Industrial complexes in California to prevent sabotage and a sympathetic community of refuge for Japanese spies and sleeper cells.


Do I smell a whiff of Clintonian political- correctness behind your Republican veneer?

What "shame" of the USA are you speaking about?

Andy (AKA: The Yangban)

George, I am not familiar with the case you are talking about but it does sound enough like typical Clinton bunk. I was thinking more along the lines of the 100th Infantry Battalion.

I was talking about the Japanese American Evacuation Claims Act of 1948 and the Walter-McCarren Act of 1952. On the other hand, I think that reparations of the late 1980s were a bad idea.

I did some digging on the matter and discovered a few interesting things. For one thing, about a quarter of the internees were eventually aloud to live outside of the camps before the end of the war. Also, there was a specific camp (Tule Lake) which was reserved for Japanese who were demonstrably disloyal to the United States. The rest or the camps were for people who happened to be of Japanese ancestry.

I would agree that the government should have done some 'racial profiling' in its wartime investigations but you don't just lock up everyone who happens to belong to a certain racial group.

BTW, if you want to talk about a disloyal ethnic group, how about them Irish:


Originally posted by George:
\"the Asian instinct to remain loyal to blood and soil. A major factor in removing Californian Japansese away from the Industrial complexes in California to prevent sabotage and a sympathetic community of refuge for Japanese spies and sleeper cells.\"

Your comments are total bunk and devoid of any truth whatsoever. Your allegation of a Japanese American being sent ashore in the Iwo Jima invasion and throwing down his rifle is also bunk. Can you provide any cites for your baseless allegations? The fact is that it was U.S. policy at the time during WW2 to deploy fighting elements of Japanese Americans to the ETO to avoid any appearance of having to fight against fellow ethnics. Japanese Americans may have been used as translators, but they were never used as combatants.


THX1138, why aren't you at your post?


THX1138, why aren't you at your post?


Esteemed Yangbang,

While Tule Lake was reserved for Japanese and Japanese Americans who had not taken an oath of complete loyalty to the U.S., not everyone who was in that camp had chosen loyalty to Japan over the U.S. You might want to look at the first chapter of Donald Collins' book "Native American Aliens" to get a more nuanced view. Also, I remember a comparison of Brazil, where detention of a largely pro-Japan Japanese community was warranted (but never carried out), and that of the U.S., where the majority (but not an absolute majority) of Japanese were Americans first. This was a great tragedy for those involved, but I notice that the left likes to deal with this issue in absolute terms, terming the action "illegal", whereas the last time I opened a law book, the Supreme Court had held these detention centers legitimate. (personally wish their finding had been more nuanced, but the law of the land is precisely that.)


The Japanese government should ship all Koreans in Japan back to North korea. promblems solved.


And besides, ignoring Kimchi, even those Japanese who did sign the "loyalty oath" lost most of their property... some are still bitter...

For example, Richmond, California used to be an affluent Japanese area...

Sadly, wars are full of suffering for innocents on both sides... the reparations, if any, should come from those who lose the war they started...



No matter how much the Koreans cry about the 'racist' japanese, the fact is that they keep moving to Japan. Koreans dont see anything wrong with moving to the USA or Japan, or any nation and having no loyalty to their adopted holmes. That is the Korean way. Look at the behavior of Kyopos on websites like the Marmot hole. If anybody makes any utterance that isnt some kind of praise of KOrea the Kyopos in concert start harassing that person.

Kyopo are 5th columnists.

Sugar Shin

Hm, "5th column"? Maybe those Japanese-Korean hold Korean citizenships (DPRK or ROK). Although many ethnic Koreans in Japan receive Japanese citizenships nowadays, a majority of them stick to the desicions of their families after WWII to stay stateless or take over North or South Korean citizenships. So, why shouldn't a formal ROK citizen support the official territorial policy of the "home country".

Japanese-Americans were interned because of the following hysteria regarding East-Asians within US society after the Pearl Harbor attacks. And the argumentation with the Supreme Court, sigh... yeah, at some point of history slavery was totally LEGAL, but what about morale??? But taken, morale has nothing to do with justice and legality.

My two Won.


Can anyone inform me about the japanese in Brazil that were involved in sinking ships in Brazlian harbors during WWII


It is no wonder if they had been educated in Korean schools in Japan. They are doing the same kind of distorted education to hate Japan.

In the North Korean oriented schools, they always have pictures of Kim Il-Sun and Kim Jon-il in the classrooms.

Japan is too kind to these people. In China, textbooks for a Japanese school were taken away because the texbooks were not saying the same thing as Chinise textbooks.

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