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Monday, November 10, 2003



"Ritualistic quality" is right (I was considering my own post on exactly that).

I remember watching some of the anti-US protests about a year ago... students vs. the poh-leese. It was quite strange watching the give and take going on between the two groups... almost as if the whole thing was choreographed ahead of time.



Excellent analysis of Korean democracy in action. The riots of today harken back to the 1980s when Korean democracy was taking its first halting steps. If memory serves, those protests were much more dangerous.

The Yangban

The protest today (Nov. 11) went peacefully so maybe the union leaders have gotten the message that they went a little too far with the Molotov cocktails. See the Korean media links for articles.

David Mercer

I showed my wife pictures of a Korean riot the other day, complete with flaming (literally!) cops, and said to her "THESE are riot police who knows what's up! Why do you think we want a bunch of S. Korean military for Iraqi stabilization. In addition to the badass white people, we will now bring in some hardass Asians, ones who've dealt with going from dictatorship to Democracy. Have a nice day."

So I think that the South should take our request for their troops to handle perhaps one of the more difficult regions as a complement. They've done some hard growing in recent decades, and they can really help out in this situation.

It is also probably unspoken but obvious that it is also their duty to us for backing their socioeconomic evolution with MUCH blood and treasure.

Matt VanVolkenburg

So the ROK should do what America asks of it because 50,000 americans died in the war, a war which came about because Korea was divided... by America, who then installed a rightest government amongst a left leaning, anti-imperialist constituency under the US military government, under which at least 100,000 people died (before the war). The war killed 3-4 million Koreans, but Koreans should do what America asks because Americans, whose lives are worth more, died as well?
The treasure America spent on Korea was not for altruistic purposes, nor was it to support a democracy against communism (SK and NK were mirror images of each other until the late 1980s - communist and anti-communist dictatorships). The US backed Park Chunghee and Chun Doohwan, backing both their socioeconomic evolution as well as their terrorizing of their own populations. In the ratio of people killed, perhaps the US has a duty to Korea, and not vice-versa. Maybe that treasure the US has spent on Korea almost evens the score; myself, I doubt it.


(NOTE: Yangban Edit for language)

Are you (...) kidding me? Mirror images? Americans always prefer democracy over dictatorships, but the military rulers in Seoul were not mirror images of Mr. Great Leader Kim Ill-sung, From Whom All Great Things Come (and if you don't think so, off you go to the gulag)

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